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		<title>By: Moving to SharpDevelop from Visual Studio Express : Thinking out loud.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moving to SharpDevelop from Visual Studio Express : Thinking out loud.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 17:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] light of the recent controversy of using plugins in Visual Studio Express and getting some inspiration after listening to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Johan; thinking out loud.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan; thinking out loud.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jul 2007 12:26:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] light of the recent controversy of using plugins in Visual Studio Express and getting some inspiration after listening to the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Relay blogger &#187; My three best traffic generators</title>
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		<dc:creator>Relay blogger &#187; My three best traffic generators</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jul 2007 08:11:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] part in a controversial discussion. This is something I did at idstam.com when the legal status of TestDriven.NET was questioned by Microsoft. That post gave me more [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 17:11:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Microsoft doesn&#039;t need to make money on tools. The steal enough money from the world on windows and sql.  I hope Jamie keeps hacking Express to add full VSTS features like source code control and modeling and domain languages and bug tracking stuff.  tools = free.  Jamie has a good hack going and needs to keep up the work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Microsoft doesn&#8217;t need to make money on tools. The steal enough money from the world on windows and sql.  I hope Jamie keeps hacking Express to add full VSTS features like source code control and modeling and domain languages and bug tracking stuff.  tools = free.  Jamie has a good hack going and needs to keep up the work.</p>
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		<title>By: Johan Idstam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johan Idstam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 06:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a legal MSDN subscription so that doesn&#039;t really bother me, but I think it is really wrong to create software for sale with pirated/stolen tools.

/johan/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a legal MSDN subscription so that doesn&#8217;t really bother me, but I think it is really wrong to create software for sale with pirated/stolen tools.</p>
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		<title>By: Free</title>
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		<dc:creator>Free</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Jun 2007 04:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t need TestDrive and Express. You can find MSDN download subscription numbers and passwords online if you look in the right places which allow you to download VSTSTS for free. Once one of you get it you can just share with all of your friends. The MS unit test stuff is better anyway. I think it&#039;s crazy to pay for VStudio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t need TestDrive and Express. You can find MSDN download subscription numbers and passwords online if you look in the right places which allow you to download VSTSTS for free. Once one of you get it you can just share with all of your friends. The MS unit test stuff is better anyway. I think it&#8217;s crazy to pay for VStudio.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been trying to post to Jamie&#039;s blog for 48 hours.  Jamie has chosen not to let my posts get through so I&#039;m going to speak my mind on as many blogs as I can.  The fact that Jamie let&#039;s responses through which support his position all the while deleting posts that question his opinion is the the hypocrisy of &quot;open source communities&quot;.

I maintain the internal build tools for our company.  We have over 1Mil lines of .Net code in C# localized in 5 languages so you can imagine the challenges in build and deployment.  We have custom Add-Ins, MSBuild stuff, old VSIP stuff, Macros and other stuff like autocomplete files.  Having debugged why our custom tools don&#039;t work on C# Express I can say with 100% certainty that the API&#039;s aren&#039;t exposed for Express to use Add-Ins without some sort of hacking.

Dan Fernandez just explained how TestDriven works
http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2007/06/01/testdriven-net-and-express-technical-information.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage

I knew this thing was a hack to use Add-In from the second I read the post.  Now I know why Jamie wouldn&#039;t post my blog post because it would have exposed him earlier.  Thanks to Microsoft for being honest.

Blogs are not a democracy so I&#039;m post this on several hoping that someone open to reality other than Jamie&#039;s will let me share my thoughts.  It makes me want to start blogging and pis*ses me off.  My first post is going to be about Jamie. Time for me to visit userland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been trying to post to Jamie&#8217;s blog for 48 hours.  Jamie has chosen not to let my posts get through so I&#8217;m going to speak my mind on as many blogs as I can.  The fact that Jamie let&#8217;s responses through which support his position all the while deleting posts that question his opinion is the the hypocrisy of &#8220;open source communities&#8221;.</p>
<p>I maintain the internal build tools for our company.  We have over 1Mil lines of .Net code in C# localized in 5 languages so you can imagine the challenges in build and deployment.  We have custom Add-Ins, MSBuild stuff, old VSIP stuff, Macros and other stuff like autocomplete files.  Having debugged why our custom tools don&#8217;t work on C# Express I can say with 100% certainty that the API&#8217;s aren&#8217;t exposed for Express to use Add-Ins without some sort of hacking.</p>
<p>Dan Fernandez just explained how TestDriven works<br />
<a href="http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2007/06/01/testdriven-net-and-express-technical-information.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage" rel="nofollow">http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2007/06/01/testdriven-net-and-express-technical-information.aspx?CommentPosted=true#commentmessage</a></p>
<p>I knew this thing was a hack to use Add-In from the second I read the post.  Now I know why Jamie wouldn&#8217;t post my blog post because it would have exposed him earlier.  Thanks to Microsoft for being honest.</p>
<p>Blogs are not a democracy so I&#8217;m post this on several hoping that someone open to reality other than Jamie&#8217;s will let me share my thoughts.  It makes me want to start blogging and pis*ses me off.  My first post is going to be about Jamie. Time for me to visit userland.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellis Web &#187; Items of Interest: 2007-06-01</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ellis Web &#187; Items of Interest: 2007-06-01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Jun 2007 07:37:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Jason Webber, the Microsoft PM who needs to brush up on his communication skills, while Chris and Johan both wonder why Microsoft are trying to mess around with their developer community in this fashion [...]</description>
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